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		<title>Comment on &#8220;What&#8217;s in a name? That which we call a web page by any other name would smell as sweet&#8221; by Oleg Shilovitsky</title>
		<link>http://blog.vuuch.com/plm/whats-in-a-name-that-which-we-call-a-web-page-by-any-other-name-would-smell-as-sweet/2010/09/02/comment-page-1#comment-1099</link>
		<dc:creator>Oleg Shilovitsky</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Sep 2010 12:01:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Chris, it takes me back to discussion happened about 1.5 years ago about usage of wikis and RSS to implement change management.

http://plmtwine.com/2009/02/25/use-wiki-for-plm-change-management-%E2%80%93-revised/

The idea of representations smells like web content management. How it is different from WebCenter provided by Oracle Fusion in their Enterprise 2.0 push?
 http://www.oracle.com/us/products/middleware/user-interaction/index.html

Best, Oleg</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Chris, it takes me back to discussion happened about 1.5 years ago about usage of wikis and RSS to implement change management.</p>
<p><a href="http://plmtwine.com/2009/02/25/use-wiki-for-plm-change-management-%E2%80%93-revised/" rel="nofollow">http://plmtwine.com/2009/02/25/use-wiki-for-plm-change-management-%E2%80%93-revised/</a></p>
<p>The idea of representations smells like web content management. How it is different from WebCenter provided by Oracle Fusion in their Enterprise 2.0 push?<br />
 <a href="http://www.oracle.com/us/products/middleware/user-interaction/index.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.oracle.com/us/products/middleware/user-interaction/index.html</a></p>
<p>Best, Oleg</p>
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		<title>Comment on PLM vendors to users: Let&#8217;s collaborate like it&#8217;s 1995 by Testing a new way for our PLM and CAD blog to be on Twitter &#124; The Vuuch Voice</title>
		<link>http://blog.vuuch.com/plm/plm-vendors-to-users-lets-collaborate-like-its-1995/2010/08/31/comment-page-1#comment-1096</link>
		<dc:creator>Testing a new way for our PLM and CAD blog to be on Twitter &#124; The Vuuch Voice</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Sep 2010 21:42:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] So, as they say in programming terms&#8230;move along, there&#8217;s nothing here. I can, however, recommend Chris&#8217;s thoughtful discussion of referencing in Vuuch. And you might also enjoy my post from earlier this week on &#8220;collabaoration&#8221; in PLM. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] So, as they say in programming terms&#8230;move along, there&#8217;s nothing here. I can, however, recommend Chris&#8217;s thoughtful discussion of referencing in Vuuch. And you might also enjoy my post from earlier this week on &#8220;collabaoration&#8221; in PLM. [...]</p>
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		<title>Comment on PLM vendors to users: Let&#8217;s collaborate like it&#8217;s 1995 by Bob</title>
		<link>http://blog.vuuch.com/plm/plm-vendors-to-users-lets-collaborate-like-its-1995/2010/08/31/comment-page-1#comment-1093</link>
		<dc:creator>Bob</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Sep 2010 16:36:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Is this like changing the name to protect the innocent?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Is this like changing the name to protect the innocent?</p>
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		<title>Comment on Assembly Instructions in Excel by People centric PLM, social product development and the web &#124; The Vuuch Voice</title>
		<link>http://blog.vuuch.com/plm/assmebly-instructions-in-excel/2010/08/19/comment-page-1#comment-1092</link>
		<dc:creator>People centric PLM, social product development and the web &#124; The Vuuch Voice</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Sep 2010 16:34:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] your part or a page that &#8220;represents&#8221; an assembly task or assembly station http://blog.vuuch.com/plm/assmebly-instructions-in-excel/2010/08/19.  Or maybe you would like a page that &#8220;represents&#8221; a factory and has related pages for [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] your part or a page that &#8220;represents&#8221; an assembly task or assembly station <a href="http://blog.vuuch.com/plm/assmebly-instructions-in-excel/2010/08/19. " rel="nofollow">http://blog.vuuch.com/plm/assmebly-instructions-in-excel/2010/08/19. </a> Or maybe you would like a page that &#8220;represents&#8221; a factory and has related pages for [...]</p>
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		<title>Comment on PLM vendors to users: Let&#8217;s collaborate like it&#8217;s 1995 by Alex Neihaus</title>
		<link>http://blog.vuuch.com/plm/plm-vendors-to-users-lets-collaborate-like-its-1995/2010/08/31/comment-page-1#comment-1090</link>
		<dc:creator>Alex Neihaus</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Sep 2010 13:16:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks, Oleg.

I hear you -- we do need to be careful that we don&#039;t make what isn&#039;t easy sound easy. Nobody wins when that happens -- and vendors are famous for doing it.

However, we really believe that if a social system makes use of a meme -- in this case the way people already know how to use a social network -- then it&#039;s a valid claim. That&#039;s why we&#039;ve done with Vuuch.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks, Oleg.</p>
<p>I hear you &#8212; we do need to be careful that we don&#8217;t make what isn&#8217;t easy sound easy. Nobody wins when that happens &#8212; and vendors are famous for doing it.</p>
<p>However, we really believe that if a social system makes use of a meme &#8212; in this case the way people already know how to use a social network &#8212; then it&#8217;s a valid claim. That&#8217;s why we&#8217;ve done with Vuuch.</p>
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		<title>Comment on PLM vendors to users: Let&#8217;s collaborate like it&#8217;s 1995 by oleg Shilovitsky</title>
		<link>http://blog.vuuch.com/plm/plm-vendors-to-users-lets-collaborate-like-its-1995/2010/08/31/comment-page-1#comment-1089</link>
		<dc:creator>oleg Shilovitsky</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Sep 2010 11:21:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Alex, Agree 100%, the most important question is how to simplify the ability of people to work together (aka - to collaborate). I believe,  Vuuch is drinking the social software kool-aid (instead of joining 1995-style parties) and thinking how to reuse Web 2.0 stuff to improve collaboration. The potential danger is to fall into PLM out-of-the-box, easy to use and ready-to-go trend used by PLM marketing during the last 3-5 years explaining how to make PLM implementations. Best, Oleg</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Alex, Agree 100%, the most important question is how to simplify the ability of people to work together (aka &#8211; to collaborate). I believe,  Vuuch is drinking the social software kool-aid (instead of joining 1995-style parties) and thinking how to reuse Web 2.0 stuff to improve collaboration. The potential danger is to fall into PLM out-of-the-box, easy to use and ready-to-go trend used by PLM marketing during the last 3-5 years explaining how to make PLM implementations. Best, Oleg</p>
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		<title>Comment on PLM vendors to users: Let&#8217;s collaborate like it&#8217;s 1995 by PLM Collaboration, Social Trend and Lotus Notes Memories &#171; Daily PLM Think Tank Blog</title>
		<link>http://blog.vuuch.com/plm/plm-vendors-to-users-lets-collaborate-like-its-1995/2010/08/31/comment-page-1#comment-1088</link>
		<dc:creator>PLM Collaboration, Social Trend and Lotus Notes Memories &#171; Daily PLM Think Tank Blog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Sep 2010 10:48:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] of them. Collaborative design, collaborative PDM, collaborative engineering&#8230; what else? Vuuch blog about collaboration made me think about some lessons related to the development of systems that [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] of them. Collaborative design, collaborative PDM, collaborative engineering&#8230; what else? Vuuch blog about collaboration made me think about some lessons related to the development of systems that [...]</p>
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		<title>Comment on PLM vendors to users: Let&#8217;s collaborate like it&#8217;s 1995 by PLM Collaboration, Social Trend and Lotus Notes Memories</title>
		<link>http://blog.vuuch.com/plm/plm-vendors-to-users-lets-collaborate-like-its-1995/2010/08/31/comment-page-1#comment-1087</link>
		<dc:creator>PLM Collaboration, Social Trend and Lotus Notes Memories</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Sep 2010 10:33:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] of them. Collaborative design, collaborative PDM, collaborative engineering&#8230; what else? Vuuch blog about collaboration made me think about some lessons related to the development of systems that [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] of them. Collaborative design, collaborative PDM, collaborative engineering&#8230; what else? Vuuch blog about collaboration made me think about some lessons related to the development of systems that [...]</p>
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		<title>Comment on Enterprise Road Kill by Chris Williams</title>
		<link>http://blog.vuuch.com/plm/enterprise-road-kill/2010/08/17/comment-page-1#comment-1064</link>
		<dc:creator>Chris Williams</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Aug 2010 15:29:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Collaboration is such an overused and meaningless word.  Of course people are working together in product development.  The point is to define the features and benefits a solution like an Enterprise Social System for Manufacturing provides rather than pasting it with a meaningless word.  Oleg, although I am not sure you meant to you did put at odds collaboration and social.  The truth is these are not the same.  It is very interesting to read Wikipedia definitions for collaboration, collaborative product development and social media you will see the definitions show these as different.  

Reading the Wikipedia definition for Social Media http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Social_media you quickly see it is about user published content in a platform that allows exchange.  And on the page “collaboration” is used only once.  An Enterprise Social System for Manufacturing brings to life content and relationship types that extend the consumer based social model, making it relevant to a class of users.  In an ESS for Manufacturing, use case specific content is created within the context of what the users is creating, a part of a product, creating dynamic links to people and content.  Another difference between consumer based social and enterprise based social is the understanding that the relationships are dynamic.  It is uncommon and I expect rare that you remove a friend in Facebook, but in design the connections you have with team members and parts is very dynamic.

I challenge you all to stop using the word collaboration.  Just try for a few weeks.  When you are struck to say/write collaboration stop and try to be more specific.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Collaboration is such an overused and meaningless word.  Of course people are working together in product development.  The point is to define the features and benefits a solution like an Enterprise Social System for Manufacturing provides rather than pasting it with a meaningless word.  Oleg, although I am not sure you meant to you did put at odds collaboration and social.  The truth is these are not the same.  It is very interesting to read Wikipedia definitions for collaboration, collaborative product development and social media you will see the definitions show these as different.  </p>
<p>Reading the Wikipedia definition for Social Media <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Social_media" rel="nofollow">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Social_media</a> you quickly see it is about user published content in a platform that allows exchange.  And on the page “collaboration” is used only once.  An Enterprise Social System for Manufacturing brings to life content and relationship types that extend the consumer based social model, making it relevant to a class of users.  In an ESS for Manufacturing, use case specific content is created within the context of what the users is creating, a part of a product, creating dynamic links to people and content.  Another difference between consumer based social and enterprise based social is the understanding that the relationships are dynamic.  It is uncommon and I expect rare that you remove a friend in Facebook, but in design the connections you have with team members and parts is very dynamic.</p>
<p>I challenge you all to stop using the word collaboration.  Just try for a few weeks.  When you are struck to say/write collaboration stop and try to be more specific.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Enterprise Road Kill by Oleg Shilovitsky</title>
		<link>http://blog.vuuch.com/plm/enterprise-road-kill/2010/08/17/comment-page-1#comment-1062</link>
		<dc:creator>Oleg Shilovitsky</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Aug 2010 22:04:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>In my view, the main purpose of Vuuch is to improve collaboration. Web 2.0 and other social tools and technologies (btw, I agree with Lou, Wave is one of them) can provide a way to provide a better way to collaborate, compared to what PLM and other enterprise companies are doing today. Tracking conversation was a good start. There are more thoughts on this in my blog post - PLM Social Detours (http://beyondplm.com/2010/08/18/plm-social-detours/). Best, Oleg</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In my view, the main purpose of Vuuch is to improve collaboration. Web 2.0 and other social tools and technologies (btw, I agree with Lou, Wave is one of them) can provide a way to provide a better way to collaborate, compared to what PLM and other enterprise companies are doing today. Tracking conversation was a good start. There are more thoughts on this in my blog post &#8211; PLM Social Detours (<a href="http://beyondplm.com/2010/08/18/plm-social-detours/" rel="nofollow">http://beyondplm.com/2010/08/18/plm-social-detours/</a>). Best, Oleg</p>
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